tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2594045886586038963.post8207643336979945277..comments2023-09-03T05:52:27.906-06:00Comments on The Magical Witch: Beware of Work for Hire in esoteric OrdersMorgan Drake Ecksteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09258538066497554895noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2594045886586038963.post-28177433623457685122012-04-14T07:38:01.750-06:002012-04-14T07:38:01.750-06:00Ahhh, makes sense, I've never considered that....Ahhh, makes sense, I've never considered that.<br /><br />For me it was a little weird as I was a young solitary. The only GD that I knew of was the one I read about in Crowley and Regardie books.<br /><br />Then out of the blue my teacher (Lord Russell of New Orleans, Louisiana) gives me a brand new hardback of this book. He told me, "your ready, and it had been authorized", he would say no more. <br /><br />After years of research into everything Crowley and GD, I finally started my Theurgy. <br /><br />That book changed my life in so many ways.<br /><br />Then I left my solitary way, and met the Golden Dawn online community. (with high expectations)<br /><br />In many ways, y'all have really welcomed me in very nicely. Thank you.<br /><br />And as a newbie, I was in awe to meet the author of the book that changed my life. <br /><br />I feel that I should end that aspect of my story right there. <br /><br />Because from that point on in my developmental knowledge of the GD situation, up until now; I would imagine that the majority of the GD community's story is a very similar one of ongoing disappointments.<br /><br />Thanks again for your insights Morganneognosticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245556100155172903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2594045886586038963.post-72743962058580707722012-04-13T21:19:50.114-06:002012-04-13T21:19:50.114-06:00That particular work is very interesting. For inst...That particular work is very interesting. For instance, people are asking for a high price for a copy of it (and the writer claims that it is selling for that much), but I have never actually seen one actually get sold at that price. And I have tracked numerous eBay actions and whatnot watching the price of that particular book (I used to be in the used book business). Personally, it seems to be all hype without a single confirmed sale at that hefty price. It is probably "bait" to get people into their Order (where you get the contents for free over the space of several years provided that you keep paying your Order dues). In fact, if it was allowed back into print, there would be less reason for people to join that particular Order, and the writer would lose one of his selling points for himself and his Order. Yes, I am a cynic---I have been in the business; I know the tricks. <br /><br />This is not to say that some people do not find it valuable; it is just to say that its value is inflated beyond its actual fair market value. <br /><br />In fact, I would point out that most out-of-print occult books are priced well above their fair market value. After all, it only takes a single sale to make up for years of listing fees.Morgan Drake Ecksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258538066497554895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2594045886586038963.post-74081149312839197452012-04-13T17:26:51.850-06:002012-04-13T17:26:51.850-06:00Thanks Morgan, I appreciate your insight on this m...Thanks Morgan, I appreciate your insight on this matter. <br /><br />I think at the end of the day, my opinion stands that a body of work, that we will simply label "outer order theurgy" was produced, then published. Then taken off the market despite the tremendous value (US900USED).<br /><br />Then a strong focal point directing attention away from this aspect being persisted onto the golden dawn community, constantly diverting us away from the "dull, boring, outer-order magick", and towards the flame war concerning super-secret-super-ancient-super-magickal-documents, that somebody profaned.....<br /><br />My research tells me that the inner order stuff they argue about are worthless to the profane anyway.....<br /><br />And that the outer-order-theurgy is where its at......<br /><br />And weirdly enough, that seems to be the true agenda: bury cosmic theurgy and its possible relation to the true 33 degrees hidden in common masonry. . . . .<br /><br />That one perspective from a practioneer/researcher/and even solitary GOLDEN DAWN hierophant.<br /><br />"alucinare concordia veritate et LVX ophion"<br /><br />neoneognosticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245556100155172903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2594045886586038963.post-52162356267851041972012-04-10T19:34:26.537-06:002012-04-10T19:34:26.537-06:00If I were in an order, or any group, and a leader ...If I were in an order, or any group, and a leader wanted to take my work and put their name on it, that would be a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't mind if the leader wanted me to contribute to the group and wanted to use my work, but not put his/her name to it. I don't think I would even mind if the work was put into the group library without any name but the groups, although I might like some verbal props for writing it. But a leader taking credit for other's work is a sham I don't want to be part of.Deanna Bondshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16844358331859518015noreply@blogger.com