Wednesday, July 17, 2013

Extensions of the Godwin Law

Over on Nick Farrell's blog an anonymous commenter wrote the following (which I thought was interesting enough to repost):

Soror SD wrote: "Anyone who talks about Golden Dawn or SRIA as being 'Satanic' has immediately lost any debate they attempt to raise."

This reminds me of Godwin's Law, the internet concept that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." (source: Wikipedia). More relevant is the corollary to Godwin's Law (often considered the law itself), that "once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress." (source: Wikipedia)

I therefore propose Griffin's Law: "When a claim is made that someone is a Satanist, the thread is finished and whoever accused the other of Satanism has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress."

I would also propose the Law of Griffin Dementia: "Whenever a claim is made without documentation that some individual or group has made death threats or put out a hit on a poster or blogger, the thread is finished and the person making the claim is to be banished with laughter."

3 comments:

Frater N said...

Sometimes it is hard to do, but in general, the following is good advice:

Rush - Wish Them Well (from the Album Clockwork Angels)

All that you can do is wish them well

Spirits turned bitter by the poison of envy
Always angry and dissatisfied
Even the lost ones, the frightened and mean ones
Even the ones with a devil inside

Thank your stars you're not that way
Turn your back and walk away
Don't even pause and ask them why
Turn around and say goodbye

Scott Stenwick said...

I might modify this slightly to read "when a claim is made that someone is a Satanist (who clearly is not)..." because of Setians and other LHP practitioners who claim the label themselves, but otherwise this is about right. I find it hard to believe that any Pagan (or occultist for that matter) who lived through the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic would go around casually accusing others of "Satanism," but there it is.

That entire argument, in fact, makes no sense. Its' true that mainstream Christian denominations are generally opposed to magick and consider it to be a sin, but the only Christian groups I've ever come across that conflate sin and Satanism are basically crazy cults. The vast majority of Christians see themselves and everyone else as sinners, which is the whole point of redemption through Christ in the first place.

Amdamiron said...

In this case it's also Goodwin's law, as comparisons with the Nazis are made regularly over at that notorious blog, including pictures of various GD personalities side by side with those of Nazi german politicians